By your definition, unconditional is a undemonstratable ideal in all broader senses.

Zombie wrote:

This conversation I'm having with myself has been very therapeutic. I'm much more of a loving person than I ever knew. lol

It was my intention to get you to talk to yourself all along.



you have done well my pupil

ah the semantics of language, I've missed it so.

You must exist to love, but whose to say what you love must or be proven to exist, for we cannot prove the existence of anything or anyone other than ourselves.

I think unconditional love is an excuse to make people feel better.



'I will love my child no matter what'



Bullshit. IF your child was a rapist and murderer you would hate them...but you'd give that time old 'i'll love them no matter what' to make yourself feel better about hating ur childs guts. It's funny really.

Princess Super Luna the Faery wrote:

I think unconditional love is an excuse to make people feel better.



'I will love my child no matter what'



Bullshit. IF your child was a rapist and murderer you would hate them...but you'd give that time old 'i'll love them no matter what' to make yourself feel better about hating ur childs guts. It's funny really.

WOW I think that the reasons you give for not unconditionally loving your child is pretty problematic. Think about it; a connection to your child is stronger than any other mortal connection that you can have. If you parents had raped or murdered someone, would you immediately cease loving them? I really doubt it. In fact, even if you have problems with your parents, you probably still love them. A connection to your own child is even stronger than this, so I don't see how committing crimes like these can end love for them.



To the OP: I agree, existence is a condition. Though, if you believe in living for eternity (on earth or elsewhere), that condition can be met, and love can go on. However, after death, people seem to come to the conclusion that love ends, and can't go on. So although it is a condition, it is also just a theoretical restriction.

there are plenty of reasons people argue against the notion of unconditional love. this is not one of the better ones. unless of course, you could tell us more about non existence, and how there was no love.

Zombie wrote:

Here's my argument:



Existence is a condition.



Discuss.

your words, not mine.

Allan wrote:

ah the semantics of language, I've missed it so.

after having read the thread, again, I'm left with this same feeling.

Zombie, you have a good point, I never thought about it. I guess I should revise my acceptance of unconditional love.



Instead, I should call it "love on the condition of existence."

that wasn't very loving of you to say.

I don't have an exceptionally large problem with this thread, I just don't particularly like how it started. peace out meng :]

Having less guidelines to reasonably love someone sounds like a good idea. For the lack of a better term that has not been beaten to death, synergy works well!



Zombie, I think people assume you are anti-love because of your icon and screenname. It's not a good idea to assume zombies don't love one another, they are people too. Undead people.

necrophiles rule