Revelation 18



1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.



2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.



3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.



4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.



5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.



6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.



7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.



8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.



9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,



10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.



11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:



12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,



13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.



14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.



15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!



17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,



18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!



19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.



20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.



21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.



22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;



23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.



24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

What has this to do with 9/11?????

I think America and NYC are supposed to be Babylon.



In other words this piece of shit is another asshole who thinks god killed 2000 people because AMerica isn't a shit for brains theocracy.

Government Issue Joanne wrote:

I think America and NYC are supposed to be Babylon.



In other words this piece of shit is another asshole who thinks god killed 2000 people because AMerica isn't a shit for brains theocracy.

I read nothing in this socalled prophecy that reminds me of 9/11. Someone has a lot of fantasy here, lol.

So where were all these "Prophacy" mother fuckers BEFORE it happened?



Ever notice all these "It's in tha ByBul" dickweeds know just how we should live and have no trouble using public disasters to push their agenda?

Government Issue Joanne wrote:

So where were all these "Prophacy" mother fuckers BEFORE it happened?



Ever notice all these "It's in tha ByBul" dickweeds know just how we should live and have no trouble using public disasters to push their agenda?

Yeah, why didn't they warn everybody before those planes crashed?

Yeah



"The Bybul predicted 9/11!!!!"



Yeah, so where were you and the Bible on 9/10??



Fuckheads.

Seroiusly, give me a break. Those passages are so vague you can make it mean anything you want

The Book or Revalations or the Apocolypse (Revalation) of St. John was a political screed written by John of Patmos against the Roman Empire of the first century AD and he was warning Christians of the First Century not to take part of anything to do with the Imperial Roman way of life.



Up to that time rome had had seven Emperors.



At the time rome was at it's zenith of power and had ten provices and Territories.



The Roman Legion was supreme i nthe world and was undefeated and Empreror Nero was the Commander by <myspace><myspace>right</myspace></myspace&g t; of all the Legions.



Now. In light of that, Reread the above document and tell me what you think.

Dr. Sampson Simpson wrote:

Seroiusly, give me a break. Those passages are so vague you can make it mean anything you want

Exactly. And that's how prophecies are written. It fits everywhere.

Prophecy is like an off the rack stocking cap.



One <myspace>size</myspace> fits all.

Government Issue Joanne wrote:

Prophecy is like an off the rack stocking cap.



One <myspace>size</myspace> fits all.

Like a horoscope.

Yep.

This is more like tabloid prophecy than 'bible prophecy'.



We have to be careful when we take the evening news and read it into 'prophecy' When we do this we disregard both biblical and historical context and meaning.



No doubt 9/11 can be read into prophecy but it would be more fitting to read it in the context of attitudes in the last days:



2nd Timothy 3:3

""...They will refuse to make peace with anyone. They will be slanderous, lack self-control, be brutal, and have no love for what is good...""



Take care



:)

Government Issue Joanne wrote:

The Book or Revalations or the Apocolypse (Revalation) of St. John was a political screed written by John of Patmos against the Roman Empire of the first century AD and he was warning Christians of the First Century not to take part of anything to do with the Imperial Roman way of life.



Up to that time rome had had seven Emperors.



At the time rome was at it's zenith of power and had ten provices and Territories.



The Roman Legion was supreme i nthe world and was undefeated and Empreror Nero was the Commander by right of all the Legions.



Now. In light of that, Reread the above document and tell me what you think.

True. And it could all be a cyclical sort of thing too ...



for example, there probably is a solid basis to this song



Seven Nation Army



and to this poetry - Circus of the Sun - written by Robert Lax from Patmos (before moving to Patmos, Lax worked with the a family of circus acrobats - the Cristianis)

"And in the beginning was love.

Love made a sphere:

all things grew within it;

the sphere then encompassed

beginnings and endings, beginning and end.

Love had a compass whose whirling dance

traced out a sphere of love in the void:

in the center thereof

rose a fountain."



Robert Lax was a good friend of Thomas Merton, who wrote this poetry in 1947 entitled "Figures for an Apocalypse - In the ruins of New York"



"The moon is paler than an actress

We have beheld her mourning in the brown ivy

Of the dendric bridges,

In the brown, broken ivy

That loves but a span of air.



The moon is paler than an actress, and weeps for you, New York,

Seeking to see you through the tattered bridges,

Leaning down to catch the sham brass

Of your sophisticated voice,

Whose songs are heard no more!



Oh how quiet it is after the black night

When flames out of the clouds burned down your cariated teeth,

And when those lightnings,

Lancing the black boils of Harlem and the Bronx,

Spilled the remaining prisoners,

(The ten and twenties of the living)

Into the trees of Jersey,

To the green farms, to find their liberty.



How are they down, how have they fallen down

Those great strong towers of ice and steel.

And melted by what terror and what miracle?

What fires and lights tore down,

With the white anger of their sudden accusation,

Those towers of silver and of steel?"