I agree... a nation cannot be christian, unless every individual is christian. It wouldn't matter what any constitution or governement ruling said.

Which can be easily be described in the Latin phrase "ad hoc, propter post hoc" which translates into...



"This, on account of this"



Which means that if two or more things happen in sequence...well the they simply must be related. Which is a common fallacy of logic.

I thought that was Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc? (Before it, therefore because of it).



Kudos on the rest of it though :)

Martin wrote:

Which can be easily be described in the Latin phrase "ad hoc, propter post hoc" which translates into...



"This, on account of this"



Which means that if two or more things happen in sequence...well the they simply must be related. Which is a common fallacy of logic.

I thought that was Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc? (Before it, therefore because of it).



Kudos on the rest of it though :)

It is, although its an easy mistake to make. And actually its, "after this, therefore because of this (post means after, like P.S. means post script as in "after the script).

†M† wrote:

Certainly, but it appears that the United Stated was founded on Christian values and religious practice.



What troubles me, as a Christian, is that there are Atheists and Agnostics out there trying to make the case that religion is ultimately evil and that it has no place in government...period.

What troubles me about Chritianity, as an atheist, is that there are Christians out there trying to make the case that soldiers are dying in Iraq because homosexuals are not being persecuted.

†M† wrote:

Certainly, but it appears that the United Stated was founded on Christian values and religious practice.

And what values were there that distinguished as being different from Common law?



You have to remember that above all else, when we are dealing with laws invested in values or morals, we used the order which had existed previously in the colonies, British Common law.

Tony wrote:

†M† wrote:

Certainly, but it appears that the United Stated was founded on Christian values and religious practice.



What troubles me, as a Christian, is that there are Atheists and Agnostics out there trying to make the case that religion is ultimately evil and that it has no place in government...period.

What troubles me about Chritianity, as an atheist, is that there are Christians out there trying to make the case that soldiers are dying in Iraq because homosexuals are not being persecuted.

What??? I haven't heard that. And don't forget troops are not just dieing in Iraq, they are dieing in afgan again.





"What troubles me, as a Christian, is that there are Atheists and Agnostics out there trying to make the case that religion is ultimately evil and that it has no place in government...period"



....You know what bothers me about you is that you assume that everyone who doesn't want religion in the government, is either atheists and agnostics, well I know christians who want that and people of other faith. Why do you some christians think that everytime someone wants something that chirstians don't want is either an atheist or an aganostic?