In the world we live in, there are a lot of questions about life, the universe and everything. Now to those educated at the Douglas Adams college of philosophy, you will know the answer is 42. But to the rest of us, we have been virtually given only two options to the mystery of the creation of life. Evolution & Supernatural Creationism.



However there is a 3rd possibility called Intelligent Design (see http://www.intelligentdesign.org.au/)



To me, the idea that life was created with advanced scientific methods using genetics and DNA seems a much more plausible theory, than that of magic or chance, taking into account current technological discoveries. Infact supernatural creation provides an age old possibility, but is increasingly losing it's grip on current society. The rest of the population generally walks blindly in the path of Darwinian evolutionary dogma, which is too somewhat questionable within our current understanding of biological genetic science.



As a Raelian I understand & believe, that an advanced race known as "The Elohim" (Plural Hebrew word meaning "Those who come from the sky", as featured in original biblical texts) are responsible for creating life "in their image" using DNA & genetic technology.



For 5 years I have been a Raelian, and have lived a life of peace, love & happiness with an understanding of where we come from, and where we could potentially go.



If you too have any questions about the Raelian Philosophy, feel free to learn more by visiting the website http://www.intelligentdesignbook.com or http://www.rael.org and discover the revolutionary message for yourself. You can even download FREE e-Books that explain the messages as given by our creators, The Elohim.



Peace & Love to All!



Star Adrael

good luck with that. Don't forget to wear your nikes.

I am so tired of seeing the black butt in every thread

Your belief system deserves as much consideration and respect as any other, but, it is not one I would adhere to. Rael's fantasy is anchored onto a pop culture that emerged after the so-called events of area 51, and he lost me when he tried to graft Christian labels onto his mythology. He failed to provide elements that would more easily sound universal to the skeptic mind, such as mine, and instead worked from a background that was his. If we, in fact, were created by aliens, I doubt they would fit within the framework of any archaic mythology. I'm willing to go with Sitchin before I would go with Rael, although Sitchin also provides great sources for fantasy and science fiction imaginations.



So Rael's story holds no water, though his philosophy may be, to some degree, enlightened. When he claims to having met the prophets of pretty much every ancient relgions out there in that space ship, he tried to appeal to other beliefs, like Muslims saying that God sent prophets to every cultures, but then he comes back with his mythology, loses sight on that attempt at being universal, like Muslims do when they lose grip on this universalism and come back to their narrowed views, and that only tells me Rael wants to find converts everywhere. That does not hold credible water. The guy is more interested in acting the prophet role in his play than looking for any actual truth or source of truth.



That is what selfish charlatans are made of. I'm not ruling out the possibility of alien lifeforms, and I am not ruling out the possibility of them having had something to do with our civilization, but I am throwing Rael's ballooney [as I see it] in the garbage [because it's not for me].

Evolution isn't the same as Creationism. Gods, are the Scientologists dumbing down now, too?

Star Adrael wrote:

As a Raelian I understand & believe, that an advanced race known as "The Elohim"... "Those who come from the sky", ... are responsible for creating life "in their image" using DNA & genetic technology.



Star Adrael

The Raelian guesses concerning Genesis 6:1-4are basically correct.

The exception in their sup<myspace><myspace>position</myspace></my space> is that these "aliens" came from outer space.





Gen. 6:1 And it came to pass, when men, (hominoids), began, (during the sixth “day, ” the Cenozoic Era of Geological Time), to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,



Gen. 6:2 That (the hominoid line of man’s ascent), the sons of God, (the Methusaelian Homo erectus who were to lead to the completed "Adam's" genetic progeny), saw the daughters of (other humanoid) men, (Lamechian Homo antecessors), that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.



Gen. 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit (the panentheistic expression of my Natural Law) shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh (and must adapt to my Reality): yet, (Neanderthal), his days shall be an hundred and twenty (thousand) years.



Gen. 6:4 There were giants, (Homo Erectus, two species, Methuselahian and Methusaelian), in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God, (the Methusaelian Homo erectus), came in unto the daughters of men, (Lamechian Homo antecessors, and even Neanderthal), and they bare (Neanderthal) children to them, the same became mighty men (hybrids preceeding the advent of Modern Homo Sapiens) which were of old, men of renown.

~the Heathen Hammer~ wrote:

Evolution isn't the same as Creationism. Gods, are the Scientologists dumbing down now, too?

Nah, Scientologists follow a different sci fi world.

Star Adrael wrote:

In the world we live in, there are a lot of questions about life, the universe and everything. Now to those educated at the Douglas Adams college of philosophy, you will know the answer is 42. But to the rest of us, we have been virtually given only two options to the mystery of the creation of life. Evolution & Supernatural Creationism.



However there is a 3rd possibility called Intelligent Design (see http://www.intelligentdesign.org.au/)

Intelligent design *IS* creationism. It's an appeal to magic.

To me, the idea that life was created with advanced scientific methods using genetics and DNA seems a much more plausible theory, than that of magic or chance, taking into account current technological discoveries.

Incredulity is not an argument.



To me it seems impossible to win the lottery - that doesn't mean that someone doesn't win the lottery. My incredulity has no effect what-so-ever on the factuality of the outcome.

Infact supernatural creation provides an age old possibility, but is increasingly losing it's grip on current society.

As it should. Magic is not a credible explanation.

The rest of the population generally walks blindly in the path of Darwinian evolutionary dogma, which is too somewhat questionable within our current understanding of biological genetic science.

1. What do you mean by 'darwinian evolutionary dogma'?

2. If you mean science past the modern synthesis (if you do then you are being disingenious by calling it 'darwinian evolutionary dogma') - it's not anymore questionable then our other scientific theories.

As a Raelian I understand & believe, that an advanced race known as "The Elohim" (Plural Hebrew word meaning "Those who come from the sky", as featured in original biblical texts) are responsible for creating life "in their image" using DNA & genetic technology.

What actual evidence do you have for this?

For 5 years I have been a Raelian, and have lived a life of peace, love & happiness with an understanding of where we come from, and where we could potentially go.

You have my deepest sympathies.

If you too have any questions about the Raelian Philosophy, feel free to learn more by visiting the website http://www.intelligentdesignbook.com or http://www.rael.org and discover the revolutionary message for yourself. You can even download FREE e-Books that explain the messages as given by our creators, The Elohim.

If there is evidence in favor of their existence, then I am interested. If not, then I'm not.

Cliff wrote:

I shudder at the thought of science taking over religion. I mean, people would actually ask for PROOF before believing things. Is it raining? I need proof! I have cancer? I need proof! Is there a God? I need proof!



I shudder at the growth of intellectual curiousity.

"I don't believe you "mom" i need proof I'm from you"

Agent Remunerative Thinker wrote:



If there is evidence in favor of their existence, then I am interested. If not, then I'm not.

Raelians will often use interpretation of sacred texts and ancient myths converging with so-called UFO sightings that make for our modern myths and serve this cocktail as "evidence".



Personally, I don't rule out the UFO thing even if I have never seen one myself, because certain patterns taken from witnessing of credible accounts (people that do not fit the schizophrenic type, mass witnessing from people with no direct relation with one another) and based on these observable patterns I leave the door open, without going all crazy about it. However, to use these to support a religion is plain silly.

"well son, this is how babies are made" "prove it dad, you assfucker"