Ya know, I've said this to a ton of people...but looking at the myspace coverage of Space just made me think of it again.



One of the things about being (AND MAINTAINING) a sober lifestyle is it gets you to recognize the difference between what you REALLY like and that which you THINK/THOUGHT you liked.



I mean I'm looking at this Space shit and I'm like great.....a ton of people hung up in a drug life style that don't really get what's behind the music they are listening to and at the end of the day, have life that's full with self caused drama and pettiness. But for these short momments (like at Space), they think all is well, and don't recognize that a ton of what they are doing during that time (listening to music and dancing aside) is actually the root cause of why their lives are so fucking miserable.



Despite being sober, I'm not anti-drug....but the fact of the matter was there was so much chaos that was in my life that had it's roots in that stuff (and most of it in unobvious ways) that you get big groups of people that are all still caught up in that shit; and I just can't stand the ugliness of it.

It's like staring at people dancing on a bunch of razor blades trying to tell you they like it when you can see the damn misery written all over their face.



Yeah.....fucking cluby lifestyle PLUR bullshit. They can keep their fucking PLUR.....

I'm to busy seeing if I can actually work some Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect into my life and the world around me to bother dealing with it.

The thing about being sober is not knowing how your music will affect those not anymore.

I'm quite happy for 70% of my life to be spent in a depressingly monotonous, seratonin-reduced depressive state if for the other 30% I can have the time of my life raving to 250 BPM speedcore whilst being intoxicated on mind-expanding body-crushing drugs.



Rather that than lead a continuous life of moral redundancy.

It's not about morals, but responsibility. There is no room for illegal substances when you have kids and a decent job.



You've got a few more years left to party, E. Take advantage of them.

API wrote:

The thing about being sober is not knowing how your music will affect those not anymore.

I dunno, personally I've found that that part of the brain I thought I could only acces when fucked up was actually there 24/7....just a matter of tapping into.



Like I said, it's not being anti-drug, it's more so just seeing things for what they really are.



So for example, I can find that hey, there's numerous types of events that I liked sheerly due to the music that was around. Sometimes lighting as well. Sometimes the people there. There were cases where the things I liked were pretty individualized......

Throw a progressive music enviroment up though, a bunch of people on E, etc. And the fact of the matter was that if I was there before it probably was just to get blitzed.....and I probably hated most of the people and music I was around.

23 wrote:

I dunno, personally I've found that that part of the brain I thought I could only acces when fucked up was actually there 24/7....just a matter of tapping into.

I guess you're right. I still know what to look/listen for... but I just can't be 100% certain anymore.

PoorBoyRich wrote:

API wrote:

The thing about being sober is not knowing how your music will affect those not anymore.

very true

You've got it easy, PBR... you know the 303 is an automatic mind f*ck.

There's kinda a point in this. The music has so many subtilties that sometimes the sober mind cannot bring all the pieces out together to acheive effect. Case in point, my little studio buddy only drinks. Every now and again I can get him to puff abit. After this I have him listen to our music, and others......

It's really only then that he can say......."oh I get it now...this is why you had us do this to this part"...etc.....and this man does nothing but write music 24 hours a day.

it's not the drugs, those things are already inside and a part of you. there are ways to meditate and put yourself in a similar state without being altered by substances.



certain mundane aspects of life have their way of clouding and blocking the true and pure form of conciousness. It's all a matter of perception. drugs have a way of temporarily removing the walls of day to day psychological toxins.



on a side note, everything in moderation.

Peace Love Productions wrote:

it's not the drugs, those things are already inside and a part of you. there are ways to meditate and put yourself in a similar state without being altered by substances.



certain mundane aspects of life have their way of clouding and blocking the true and pure form of conciousness. It's all a matter of perception. drugs have a way of temporarily removing the walls of day to day psychological toxins.



on a side note, everything in moderation.

Yeah....my girlfriends Ma Harishi (?) ..they are all about trancendental meditation.

I'll tell ya tho....

I seriously don't think it all sounds the same sober. I've been clean from all but weed for eeeeeeeeeeeeons now.......and it just isn't quite the same. I still love the music, but there are subtile differences.....

Peace Love Productions wrote:

it's not the drugs, those things are already inside and a part of you. there are ways to meditate and put yourself in a similar state without being altered by substances.



certain mundane aspects of life have their way of clouding and blocking the true and pure form of conciousness. It's all a matter of perception. drugs have a way of temporarily removing the walls of day to day psychological toxins.



on a side note, everything in moderation.

PLP, I agree with you in total.

Have to confess that I ditched substance simply because I could never grab ahold of the moderation action.



But, fact of the matter is, I probably would have stopped music all together if I still wasn't able to tap into that fucked up mindset.

Funny thing is, is for a good while, I didn't think I'd be able to. Actually, there were a ton of things that I had to figure out how to do again....notably during my first year of sobriety.



OMG, That fuckin first year........I wouldn't relive that shit for anyone.

How do I do music?

How can I hang out with people?

Can I still go to parties?

Hows the sex life work now?



Literally, there were just tons of areas that got thrown into this giant bowl of WTF?

Much to my surprise, they all got resolved, and 90% of the time it was just a matter of getting rid of stupid mental blocks of some kind.



In all honesty, I think the music a sober me can put out is twice as dangerous a mind fuck as what the fucked up me could put out. Simple fact of the matter is not only do the fucked up ideas still go throug my mind, but I have the where withall to act quickly and accurately enough to make a lot of things happen that my mind would have been to clouded to do on substance.

just imagine if you were never taught anything and never exposed to anything but nourishment from birth until now. the whole world, every aspect, and every detail would be a total mind f*** completely open to interpretation.

Peace Love Productions wrote:

just imagine if you were never taught anything and never exposed to anything but nourishment from birth until now. the whole world, every aspect, and every detail would be a total mind f*** completely open to interpretation.

totally.



And I think that's part a large part of what goes on.....you can teach yourself things for such an extended amount of time, that to drastically shift them simply becomes mind blowing....completely fucks with your interpretation of reality.

Alien wrote:

Peace Love Productions wrote:

just imagine if you were never taught anything and never exposed to anything but nourishment from birth until now. the whole world, every aspect, and every detail would be a total mind f*** completely open to interpretation.

totally.



And I think that's part a large part of what goes on.....you can teach yourself things for such an extended amount of time, that to drastically shift them simply becomes mind blowing....completely fucks with your interpretation of reality.

......so what your saying is...If i use my left hand instead of my right to play with myself.......