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  • 21 novembre 2006 20:29
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    • CRISPY
    • Garçon/22
    • SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, US
    hmm depends on the stimulus that you recieve..



    but Ill go with perception.. for example for people who cheat on others... the "gut feeling" comes with picking up the significant other subtle or nonsubtle actions or behaviors.. from not talking as much.. to always in hurry.. or not sounding to excited to see or be with each other.. just a few...
  • 21 novembre 2006 23:42
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    • The Meanz
    • Fille/110
    • Toronto/London, Ontario, CA
    I get "the feeling" its the later of the 2 - gt
  • 22 novembre 2006 00:29
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    Usually it means the same thing as "conditioning" or knee jerk response. I hear people talk about their intuition all the time. They never bother to test it ever, yet speak about it as if it's more reliable than say, reasoning. They have "gut feelings" and that is just a un verbal burp of conditioned responses and beliefs, opinions etc. that the mind didn't form into words. Either because it's too lazy, can't, or not practical to do so in that moment.



    Not that my comments have been influenced by wikipedia, but wikipedia is usually a good source of knowledge. I haven't read much about intuition there, since I have done so elsewhere, but I'm sure it's a good reference for common views on intuition.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuition_%28knowledge%29
  • 22 novembre 2006 03:45
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    protoplasmic wrote:

    It has to do with experience coupled with how a persons brain is wired. It's recently been discovered that intuition is a product of a shorter version of major brain processes that calculate (subconsciously) all available possibilities to arrive at a solution to a problem, or an idea. That is, when we look to provide snap decisions our brain does a Google quick search, say, and returns the best available option that it can find based on information available stored in our little heads. People who have good intuition may have broad experience, are used to making such decisions regularly, or whatever... to be honest, I can't be bothered going and finding the journal article again.






    That doesnt work im afraid. Example Intuition alowed me to take another longer rout home one day, there was a crash on the road that I did not go down. If my brain was just working through all possibilities I would have gone home as usual.
  • 22 novembre 2006 03:48
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    • Mary
    • Fille/102
    • TAMPA, FLORIDA, US
    Rhinomartyn wrote:



    protoplasmic wrote:

    It has to do with experience coupled with how a persons brain is wired. It's recently been discovered that intuition is a product of a shorter version of major brain processes that calculate (subconsciously) all available possibilities to arrive at a solution to a problem, or an idea. That is, when we look to provide snap decisions our brain does a Google quick search, say, and returns the best available option that it can find based on information available stored in our little heads. People who have good intuition may have broad experience, are used to making such decisions regularly, or whatever... to be honest, I can't be bothered going and finding the journal article again.








    That doesnt work im afraid. Example Intuition alowed me to take another longer rout home one day, there was a crash on the road that I did not go down. If my brain was just working through all possibilities I would have gone home as usual.




    Perhaps that was something supernatural steering you in another direction that day?
  • 22 novembre 2006 04:05
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    protoplasmic wrote:



    Mary wrote:



    Rhinomartyn wrote:



    protoplasmic wrote:

    It has to do with experience coupled with how a persons brain is wired. It's recently been discovered that intuition is a product of a shorter version of major brain processes that calculate (subconsciously) all available possibilities to arrive at a solution to a problem, or an idea. That is, when we look to provide snap decisions our brain does a Google quick search, say, and returns the best available option that it can find based on information available stored in our little heads. People who have good intuition may have broad experience, are used to making such decisions regularly, or whatever... to be honest, I can't be bothered going and finding the journal article again.












    That doesnt work im afraid. Example Intuition alowed me to take another longer rout home one day, there was a crash on the road that I did not go down. If my brain was just working through all possibilities I would have gone home as usual.




    Perhaps that was something supernatural steering you in another direction that day?










    Very doubtful. What we call intuition can only be based on what we already know (which is a lot more than you may think!), otherwise you call it a guess.



    The study I was referring to was looking into "noise" associated with the brain. They have always considered this to be similar to white noise, but they found that noise was the wrong word, as this would suggest that it is random and not useful. Rather, they found that the noise was actually the brain functioning, running through millions of calculations and then coming up with what is the best of possible outcomes based on available info. Answers or conclusions based on what we call intuition, or fast decision making are forced outcomes after rapid calculations based on available info.




    What you say does not make sense, the best possible logical outcome would be for me to go the same way home, the available info was exactly the same as any other day so what information would have made me make a different decision??
  • 22 novembre 2006 05:16
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    It's hard to argue something that is intangible.



    But I will clean up the playing feild a little. Intuition is divided into the 'pathys' Telepathy, and Empathy. Telepathy is the sending and receiving of messages through words, images and inner voice. Empathy is when the message travels on emotion. You can't tell what the message is, just the emotional state of the sender.



    The within each of these are the subdivisions of receiver and sender. Some people are stronger in one than the other, some have both.





    So with those base definitions to decode my examples based upon,



    A couple examples.



    When my oldest son was little little we were walking up the stairs, I was mentally on 'open channel', meaning I wasn't consciously blocking my thoughts from wherever they may ramble. I was thinking about lunch.



    My son says out loud "how about chef boyardees?"



    Yesterday I was getting ready to start getting out the stuff to make applesauce. I was again mentally on open channel and in my head going apples apples apples apples....



    My kid from across the room starts singing in the same tune that I was just thinking, apples apples apples...



    I've worked with my son since he was very very little though, so 'open channel' between us is well established. He routinely freaks people out because if someone's musing in that random unguarded brainspace, he has a tendancy to say what they're thinking out loud. He does it to me as well at terrible moments. Usually when I'm mad in my head but not talking about it he'll start saying what I'm thinking.



    We were walking out of a store, and a girl walked by us, Out of the blue B goes "SHE THINKS I'M FAT!" this girl looks at him, turns PURPLE and ran for her car.



    I can feel the spot on my brain that it uses if that helps. Roughly an inch deep, both sides, at the back crown area. When I do whatever it is that works, there is tension all the way down my spinal cord.



    What I've found is that I'm at least a strong sender. I can put answers into people's heads and get an answer from them that I usually wouldn't have, had I let them answer on their own without 'open channel' . Usually questions that they would have answered on autopilot.



    I don't consciously receive images, words or voice. Every now and again I get a *brainstorm* and if I say it out loud someone satnding by usually goes how did you know that? But it's not as predictable as the other. I do get emotion which for the most part I've learned to block over the years, or just not to allow myself to be affected by it. If anything I'm annoyed by the additional static on my radar and it becomes a reason to try to get away from the source.



    My Reiki Master actually see's Auras and Chakras, in animals as well, and he says he can get from the visually represented chakras the same things I get through the pathys, and touch reading.



    It's something I've discovered by accident years ago, but have deliberately worked with because it is a good means of defense. Obviously I haven't gained my run them over cynicism through a lifetime of acceptance. Actually there was a roughly four year period where I didn't talk. Ever.



    From 12-16. I think the discipline of this helped contribute.
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